Comments on: Short Term Gains Versus Long Term Value http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/ Build your business by sharing what you know Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:51:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kate Bacon http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4706 Kate Bacon Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:47:41 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4706 Fantastic! Concentrate on the value you are providing your clients and your marketing will be blissfully easy... Fantastic! Concentrate on the value you are providing your clients and your marketing will be blissfully easy…

]]> By: Kate Bacon http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16511 Kate Bacon Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:47:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16511 Fantastic! Concentrate on the value you are providing your clients and your marketing will be blissfully easy... Fantastic! Concentrate on the value you are providing your clients and your marketing will be blissfully easy…

]]> By: Matt Keegan http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4354 Matt Keegan Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:19:40 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4354 Very good points. So much blog writing has become shallow because people are trying to get the prize before they earn it. Even then, the prize they do obtain is short-lived, nothing compared to simply working on writing exceptional content. Very good points. So much blog writing has become shallow because people are trying to get the prize before they earn it. Even then, the prize they do obtain is short-lived, nothing compared to simply working on writing exceptional content.

]]> By: Matt Keegan http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16510 Matt Keegan Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:19:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16510 Very good points. So much blog writing has become shallow because people are trying to get the prize before they earn it. Even then, the prize they do obtain is short-lived, nothing compared to simply working on writing exceptional content. Very good points. So much blog writing has become shallow because people are trying to get the prize before they earn it. Even then, the prize they do obtain is short-lived, nothing compared to simply working on writing exceptional content.

]]> By: David Krug http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4353 David Krug Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:26:49 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4353 @Chris Yeah Goog has a history of nuking pagerank passing ability on sites who sell links. Another example of selling short term gain instead of focussing on long term. Although i think its ok to have a short term focused project not all your projects should be short sighted. IMO @Chris
Yeah Goog has a history of nuking pagerank passing ability on sites who sell links. Another example of selling short term gain instead of focussing on long term. Although i think its ok to have a short term focused project not all your projects should be short sighted. IMO

]]> By: David Krug http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16509 David Krug Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:26:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16509 @Chris Yeah Goog has a history of nuking pagerank passing ability on sites who sell links. Another example of selling short term gain instead of focussing on long term. Although i think its ok to have a short term focused project not all your projects should be short sighted. IMO @Chris
Yeah Goog has a history of nuking pagerank passing ability on sites who sell links. Another example of selling short term gain instead of focussing on long term. Although i think its ok to have a short term focused project not all your projects should be short sighted. IMO

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4349 Chris Garrett Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:14:12 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4349 @K-L - Well for a start the better job of targeting, creating value and knowing your audience, the easier it is to promote. For example, a widget that doesn't do anything is going to be a harder sell than an instant face lift in a pill, the first example is hard slog, the second almost sells itself. Getting the ball rolling is the hard bit, that means going out and commenting, linking out a lot, networking, forums, etc. Once you have even a small audience you can get feedback, then you have something to work on. @shaners - Hopefully when you submitted a comment you will have been emailed with a courtesy note thank you. Submitting a comment though is not opting in for your newsletter though so don't think of adding them to a distribution list :) Many bloggers have grown loyal audiences by striking up conversation with their commenters too. @Rajesh - I guess the distinction is short term gains at the expense of long term ones ... @Douglas - I think anything on brand and that creates value is spot on, so great idea :) @Jason - Thanks, hope you are liking the forum :) @Ashish - Yup, the audience is the whole point, I don't want a revolving door but to make a real connection with people @Chris - Yes you always have to keep in mind the steps required to get to your goal and how you will monitor what works. A growing RSS/email readership and valuable comments are good indicators. Also what people are saying about your blog on other blogs and in forums. @David - What do you mean by nukes your links? Do you mean Google stops them passing PR? I don't care so much about that (I don't blog thinking about Google :) ) but I can see it would be a tactical problem in many scenarios. @K-L – Well for a start the better job of targeting, creating value and knowing your audience, the easier it is to promote. For example, a widget that doesn’t do anything is going to be a harder sell than an instant face lift in a pill, the first example is hard slog, the second almost sells itself. Getting the ball rolling is the hard bit, that means going out and commenting, linking out a lot, networking, forums, etc. Once you have even a small audience you can get feedback, then you have something to work on.

@shaners – Hopefully when you submitted a comment you will have been emailed with a courtesy note thank you. Submitting a comment though is not opting in for your newsletter though so don’t think of adding them to a distribution list :) Many bloggers have grown loyal audiences by striking up conversation with their commenters too.

@Rajesh – I guess the distinction is short term gains at the expense of long term ones …

@Douglas – I think anything on brand and that creates value is spot on, so great idea :)

@Jason – Thanks, hope you are liking the forum :)

@Ashish – Yup, the audience is the whole point, I don’t want a revolving door but to make a real connection with people

@Chris – Yes you always have to keep in mind the steps required to get to your goal and how you will monitor what works. A growing RSS/email readership and valuable comments are good indicators. Also what people are saying about your blog on other blogs and in forums.

@David – What do you mean by nukes your links? Do you mean Google stops them passing PR? I don’t care so much about that (I don’t blog thinking about Google :) ) but I can see it would be a tactical problem in many scenarios.

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16508 Chris Garrett Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:14:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16508 @K-L - Well for a start the better job of targeting, creating value and knowing your audience, the easier it is to promote. For example, a widget that doesn't do anything is going to be a harder sell than an instant face lift in a pill, the first example is hard slog, the second almost sells itself. Getting the ball rolling is the hard bit, that means going out and commenting, linking out a lot, networking, forums, etc. Once you have even a small audience you can get feedback, then you have something to work on. @shaners - Hopefully when you submitted a comment you will have been emailed with a courtesy note thank you. Submitting a comment though is not opting in for your newsletter though so don't think of adding them to a distribution list :) Many bloggers have grown loyal audiences by striking up conversation with their commenters too. @Rajesh - I guess the distinction is short term gains at the expense of long term ones ... @Douglas - I think anything on brand and that creates value is spot on, so great idea :) @Jason - Thanks, hope you are liking the forum :) @Ashish - Yup, the audience is the whole point, I don't want a revolving door but to make a real connection with people @Chris - Yes you always have to keep in mind the steps required to get to your goal and how you will monitor what works. A growing RSS/email readership and valuable comments are good indicators. Also what people are saying about your blog on other blogs and in forums. @David - What do you mean by nukes your links? Do you mean Google stops them passing PR? I don't care so much about that (I don't blog thinking about Google :) ) but I can see it would be a tactical problem in many scenarios. @K-L – Well for a start the better job of targeting, creating value and knowing your audience, the easier it is to promote. For example, a widget that doesn’t do anything is going to be a harder sell than an instant face lift in a pill, the first example is hard slog, the second almost sells itself. Getting the ball rolling is the hard bit, that means going out and commenting, linking out a lot, networking, forums, etc. Once you have even a small audience you can get feedback, then you have something to work on.

@shaners – Hopefully when you submitted a comment you will have been emailed with a courtesy note thank you. Submitting a comment though is not opting in for your newsletter though so don’t think of adding them to a distribution list :) Many bloggers have grown loyal audiences by striking up conversation with their commenters too.

@Rajesh – I guess the distinction is short term gains at the expense of long term ones …

@Douglas – I think anything on brand and that creates value is spot on, so great idea :)

@Jason – Thanks, hope you are liking the forum :)

@Ashish – Yup, the audience is the whole point, I don’t want a revolving door but to make a real connection with people

@Chris – Yes you always have to keep in mind the steps required to get to your goal and how you will monitor what works. A growing RSS/email readership and valuable comments are good indicators. Also what people are saying about your blog on other blogs and in forums.

@David – What do you mean by nukes your links? Do you mean Google stops them passing PR? I don’t care so much about that (I don’t blog thinking about Google :) ) but I can see it would be a tactical problem in many scenarios.

]]> By: David Krug http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4336 David Krug Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:47:23 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4336 All good points. I have certain policies about selling Text Links, I personally don't do it. Personally because of long term growth I think it nukes your outbound links. Also adsense I agree. What's the point. Although some might say I am a short termer I tend to keep many projects that are more long termers behind the veil of secrecy I think its ok to have some short term gainer sites and also some long term stables. That's my take. Thanks for sharing this nugget of wisdom. All good points. I have certain policies about selling Text Links, I personally don’t do it. Personally because of long term growth I think it nukes your outbound links. Also adsense I agree. What’s the point. Although some might say I am a short termer I tend to keep many projects that are more long termers behind the veil of secrecy I think its ok to have some short term gainer sites and also some long term stables. That’s my take. Thanks for sharing this nugget of wisdom.

]]> By: David Krug http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16507 David Krug Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:47:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16507 All good points. I have certain policies about selling Text Links, I personally don't do it. Personally because of long term growth I think it nukes your outbound links. Also adsense I agree. What's the point. Although some might say I am a short termer I tend to keep many projects that are more long termers behind the veil of secrecy I think its ok to have some short term gainer sites and also some long term stables. That's my take. Thanks for sharing this nugget of wisdom. All good points. I have certain policies about selling Text Links, I personally don’t do it. Personally because of long term growth I think it nukes your outbound links. Also adsense I agree. What’s the point. Although some might say I am a short termer I tend to keep many projects that are more long termers behind the veil of secrecy I think its ok to have some short term gainer sites and also some long term stables. That’s my take. Thanks for sharing this nugget of wisdom.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4334 Chris Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:32 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4334 My blog has had a longterm perspective from the beginning. My goal is to create something that will be a great resource when someone does a search on my topic five years from now. This has influenced everything from site layout to post length to participation in memes. I actually have no idea how it's affecting my traffic now. One thing I've noticed is that I can end up using it as an excuse though. "Oh, my traffic is stagnant this month. Well that's fine because I'm longterm oriented." Well really it's probably because I was half-assed about finding readers and maybe my overall plan needs tweaks to make it more appealing. My blog has had a longterm perspective from the beginning. My goal is to create something that will be a great resource when someone does a search on my topic five years from now. This has influenced everything from site layout to post length to participation in memes.

I actually have no idea how it’s affecting my traffic now. One thing I’ve noticed is that I can end up using it as an excuse though. “Oh, my traffic is stagnant this month. Well that’s fine because I’m longterm oriented.”

Well really it’s probably because I was half-assed about finding readers and maybe my overall plan needs tweaks to make it more appealing.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16506 Chris Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16506 My blog has had a longterm perspective from the beginning. My goal is to create something that will be a great resource when someone does a search on my topic five years from now. This has influenced everything from site layout to post length to participation in memes. I actually have no idea how it's affecting my traffic now. One thing I've noticed is that I can end up using it as an excuse though. "Oh, my traffic is stagnant this month. Well that's fine because I'm longterm oriented." Well really it's probably because I was half-assed about finding readers and maybe my overall plan needs tweaks to make it more appealing. My blog has had a longterm perspective from the beginning. My goal is to create something that will be a great resource when someone does a search on my topic five years from now. This has influenced everything from site layout to post length to participation in memes.

I actually have no idea how it’s affecting my traffic now. One thing I’ve noticed is that I can end up using it as an excuse though. “Oh, my traffic is stagnant this month. Well that’s fine because I’m longterm oriented.”

Well really it’s probably because I was half-assed about finding readers and maybe my overall plan needs tweaks to make it more appealing.

]]> By: Ashish Mohta http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4330 Ashish Mohta Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:50:18 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4330 2 eyes and One focus....That should be coined Chris. I see it happening all over the place. Getting huge stumble for posts which might not have any worth. Last one month when I was on tour, I had to just stop thinking of what My blog will earn and think How can i keep my readers happy with new content...and I was able to do it. You can be always have a site which is having good alexa, good money but at the end you will know if it was really worth witout an audience 2 eyes and One focus….That should be coined Chris. I see it happening all over the place. Getting huge stumble for posts which might not have any worth.

Last one month when I was on tour, I had to just stop thinking of what My blog will earn and think How can i keep my readers happy with new content…and I was able to do it.

You can be always have a site which is having good alexa, good money but at the end you will know if it was really worth witout an audience

]]> By: Ashish Mohta http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16505 Ashish Mohta Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:50:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16505 2 eyes and One focus....That should be coined Chris. I see it happening all over the place. Getting huge stumble for posts which might not have any worth. Last one month when I was on tour, I had to just stop thinking of what My blog will earn and think How can i keep my readers happy with new content...and I was able to do it. You can be always have a site which is having good alexa, good money but at the end you will know if it was really worth witout an audience 2 eyes and One focus….That should be coined Chris. I see it happening all over the place. Getting huge stumble for posts which might not have any worth.

Last one month when I was on tour, I had to just stop thinking of what My blog will earn and think How can i keep my readers happy with new content…and I was able to do it.

You can be always have a site which is having good alexa, good money but at the end you will know if it was really worth witout an audience

]]> By: Jason http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4328 Jason Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:07:32 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4328 I think you're totally right, Chris. What gets me is bloggers who have just started a new blog without a PR ranking, and they stuff their pages with advertisements... the three AdSense ads and links, CJ, Amazon, whatever... Like a reader is going to want to read a 0 PR blog like that. This is my first visit to your blog, but I have been to your new forum under "Blogger." Nice vords of visdom on this entry. I think you’re totally right, Chris.

What gets me is bloggers who have just started a new blog without a PR ranking, and they stuff their pages with advertisements… the three AdSense ads and links, CJ, Amazon, whatever… Like a reader is going to want to read a 0 PR blog like that.

This is my first visit to your blog, but I have been to your new forum under “Blogger.” Nice vords of visdom on this entry.

]]> By: Jason http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16504 Jason Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:07:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16504 I think you're totally right, Chris. What gets me is bloggers who have just started a new blog without a PR ranking, and they stuff their pages with advertisements... the three AdSense ads and links, CJ, Amazon, whatever... Like a reader is going to want to read a 0 PR blog like that. This is my first visit to your blog, but I have been to your new forum under "Blogger." Nice vords of visdom on this entry. I think you’re totally right, Chris.

What gets me is bloggers who have just started a new blog without a PR ranking, and they stuff their pages with advertisements… the three AdSense ads and links, CJ, Amazon, whatever… Like a reader is going to want to read a 0 PR blog like that.

This is my first visit to your blog, but I have been to your new forum under “Blogger.” Nice vords of visdom on this entry.

]]> By: Douglas Karr http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4325 Douglas Karr Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4325 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/07/05/blog-tipping/ I agree but I think I found a happy medium. I wanted to get some attention on my blog but didn't want to go 'evil' so I started "Blog Tipping". That is - make a specific request tracking back to my post and I will review your blog and try to throw some tips your way to improve your blog's layout, Seach Engine placement, etc. Thoughts? http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/07/05/blog-tipping/

I agree but I think I found a happy medium. I wanted to get some attention on my blog but didn’t want to go ‘evil’ so I started “Blog Tipping”.

That is – make a specific request tracking back to my post and I will review your blog and try to throw some tips your way to improve your blog’s layout, Seach Engine placement, etc.

Thoughts?

]]> By: Douglas Karr http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16503 Douglas Karr Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:01:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16503 http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/07/05/blog-tipping/ I agree but I think I found a happy medium. I wanted to get some attention on my blog but didn't want to go 'evil' so I started "Blog Tipping". That is - make a specific request tracking back to my post and I will review your blog and try to throw some tips your way to improve your blog's layout, Seach Engine placement, etc. Thoughts? http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/07/05/blog-tipping/

I agree but I think I found a happy medium. I wanted to get some attention on my blog but didn’t want to go ‘evil’ so I started “Blog Tipping”.

That is – make a specific request tracking back to my post and I will review your blog and try to throw some tips your way to improve your blog’s layout, Seach Engine placement, etc.

Thoughts?

]]> By: Rajesh Shakya http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4321 Rajesh Shakya Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:32:10 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-4321 I agree with the thought Chris had put forward in the post. Short term gains never take you further. Rajesh Shakya Helping technopreneurs to excel and lead their life! I agree with the thought Chris had put forward in the post. Short term gains never take you further.

Rajesh Shakya
Helping technopreneurs to excel and lead their life!

]]> By: Rajesh Shakya http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16502 Rajesh Shakya Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:32:00 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/short-term-gains-versus-long-term-value/#comment-16502 I agree with the thought Chris had put forward in the post. Short term gains never take you further. Rajesh Shakya Helping technopreneurs to excel and lead their life! I agree with the thought Chris had put forward in the post. Short term gains never take you further.

Rajesh Shakya
Helping technopreneurs to excel and lead their life!

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