Comments on: Indirect Profits, Business and Corporate Blogs http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/ the business of blogging and new media Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:49:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3322 Chris Garrett Sat, 19 May 2007 19:31:41 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3322 @Hsien - as long as you and your customers are happy, that is all that counts :) @Christian - watch this space ;) @Hsien – as long as you and your customers are happy, that is all that counts :)

@Christian – watch this space ;)

]]> By: Christian Tietze http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3317 Christian Tietze Fri, 18 May 2007 23:48:27 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3317 Why isn't here a list of posts in this series? Would be great for future reference Why isn’t here a list of posts in this series? Would be great for future reference

]]> By: Hsien Lei http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3196 Hsien Lei Thu, 10 May 2007 08:23:11 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3196 Thank you so much for the reassurance, Des. I was feeling pretty bummed about my cluelessness. Will revaluate in 6 months time as you suggested! Thank you so much for the reassurance, Des. I was feeling pretty bummed about my cluelessness. Will revaluate in 6 months time as you suggested!

]]> By: Des Walsh http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3195 Des Walsh Thu, 10 May 2007 08:09:44 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3195 Hsien I'm sure you'll always be able to find people who say you should have charged more. You were there, they weren't. Each transaction and deal can be a learning for the next. Hsien
I’m sure you’ll always be able to find people who say you should have charged more. You were there, they weren’t. Each transaction and deal can be a learning for the next.

]]> By: Hsien Lei http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3194 Hsien Lei Thu, 10 May 2007 07:33:58 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3194 Hi Des! (and Chris :P ) So I accepted my first offer yesterday and was feeling quite satisfied with the rate I received until I talked to a couple of other people who said I should have charged more! Grrr. Although I believe the what we're paid is representative of our value, I also think there are other considerations we must take into consideration. For me, the deal is worth it because there are other non-monetary benefits that I may not have gotten if I had accepted another project. (The two companies are competitors and I would not have been able to work for both at the same time.) The end result is, if we're happy with a few pennies then so be it! I'm not looking to becoming a billionaire. Not yet, anyway.... Hsien, putting my wallet away and going back to work ;) Hi Des! (and Chris :P ) So I accepted my first offer yesterday and was feeling quite satisfied with the rate I received until I talked to a couple of other people who said I should have charged more! Grrr.

Although I believe the what we’re paid is representative of our value, I also think there are other considerations we must take into consideration. For me, the deal is worth it because there are other non-monetary benefits that I may not have gotten if I had accepted another project. (The two companies are competitors and I would not have been able to work for both at the same time.)

The end result is, if we’re happy with a few pennies then so be it! I’m not looking to becoming a billionaire. Not yet, anyway….

Hsien, putting my wallet away and going back to work ;)

]]> By: Des Walsh http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3173 Des Walsh Wed, 09 May 2007 01:05:40 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3173 Hsien Lee wrote: I didn't and still don't have an idea of how much I should charge Who of us does know? Great advice from Chris. When I started coaching, an exec coach who used to be on my staff and is now charging corporations big bucks to coach them asked me what my rate was. When I answered he told me to double it and he expected me to increase it again within six months. I did and the people I wanted to coach had no problem. Some people baulk at paying my fees but they are not exorbitant by industry standards and I don't want to coach people with a poverty mentality. My suggestion is to find someone in your field who is probably earning very well and knows you and ask them what would be a good rate to charge (maybe ask a few people) - my experience is that leaders like to tell you what they charge: makes them feel good :) Hsien Lee wrote: I didn’t and still don’t have an idea of how much I should charge

Who of us does know? Great advice from Chris. When I started coaching, an exec coach who used to be on my staff and is now charging corporations big bucks to coach them asked me what my rate was. When I answered he told me to double it and he expected me to increase it again within six months. I did and the people I wanted to coach had no problem. Some people baulk at paying my fees but they are not exorbitant by industry standards and I don’t want to coach people with a poverty mentality. My suggestion is to find someone in your field who is probably earning very well and knows you and ask them what would be a good rate to charge (maybe ask a few people) – my experience is that leaders like to tell you what they charge: makes them feel good :)

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3169 Chris Garrett Tue, 08 May 2007 17:21:16 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3169 Oh yeah, how much to charge is a tricky one. My advice is to keep putting your prices up until you don't get any more work ;) It's true though, if you win 100% of the work you go for you are not charging enough :) For making sure they pay, ask for a % up front. In my project initiation form I send out I ask for payment before I initiate any work. Doesn't guarantee you get paid in full but at least you do get *something*. Oh yeah, how much to charge is a tricky one. My advice is to keep putting your prices up until you don’t get any more work ;) It’s true though, if you win 100% of the work you go for you are not charging enough :)

For making sure they pay, ask for a % up front. In my project initiation form I send out I ask for payment before I initiate any work. Doesn’t guarantee you get paid in full but at least you do get *something*.

]]> By: Hsien Lei http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3168 Hsien Lei Tue, 08 May 2007 17:18:18 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3168 It's nervewracking because I'm utterly clueless! I didn't and still don't have an idea of how much I should charge and then I read about freelancers having to hound their clients for payment. Fortunately, I'm pretty sure mine won't try to stiff me but I'm venturing into new territory and it's a steep learning curve. It’s nervewracking because I’m utterly clueless! I didn’t and still don’t have an idea of how much I should charge and then I read about freelancers having to hound their clients for payment. Fortunately, I’m pretty sure mine won’t try to stiff me but I’m venturing into new territory and it’s a steep learning curve.

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3162 Chris Garrett Tue, 08 May 2007 16:53:25 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3162 @Fran - hope you like it :) @Hsien - why nerve wracking? I find it much easier than doing it in person *shudder* :) @Armen - many people are telling me their adsense income is dropping, I think indirect is where the real money is personally :) @Des - Thanks, I will subscribe to your blog too :) @Fran – hope you like it :)

@Hsien – why nerve wracking? I find it much easier than doing it in person *shudder* :)

@Armen – many people are telling me their adsense income is dropping, I think indirect is where the real money is personally :)

@Des – Thanks, I will subscribe to your blog too :)

]]> By: Des Walsh http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3136 Des Walsh Tue, 08 May 2007 04:48:03 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3136 Excellent post and very timely. I will use this as a reference post when I'm next in the process of explaining to a business person about making money with your blog vs making money directly from your blog. Excellent post and very timely. I will use this as a reference post when I’m next in the process of explaining to a business person about making money with your blog vs making money directly from your blog.

]]> By: Armen http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3131 Armen Tue, 08 May 2007 01:40:25 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3131 I totally see where you're coming from Chris. In fact, I'm going to hold off putting ads on my blog for a while, just to see what develops. I find it interesting to see how others manage, and what can happen when people open themselves up to other possibilities. I totally see where you’re coming from Chris. In fact, I’m going to hold off putting ads on my blog for a while, just to see what develops. I find it interesting to see how others manage, and what can happen when people open themselves up to other possibilities.

]]> By: Hsien Lei http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3128 Hsien Lei Mon, 07 May 2007 23:12:20 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3128 OooOOOooh. I can't wait to learn more about how you utilize your blog to network and source for opportunities. I'm just starting to do the same myself and it's nervewracking! OooOOOooh. I can’t wait to learn more about how you utilize your blog to network and source for opportunities. I’m just starting to do the same myself and it’s nervewracking!

]]> By: Fran Civile http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3122 Fran Civile Mon, 07 May 2007 16:38:06 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3122 Chris, I really value your posts and I'm looking forward to your next post on today's subject. Thank you, Fran Chris, I really value your posts and I’m looking
forward to your next post on today’s subject.

Thank you,

Fran

]]> By: Chris Garrett http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3110 Chris Garrett Mon, 07 May 2007 11:05:57 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3110 All will be revealed ;) All will be revealed ;)

]]> By: Melt du Plooy http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3109 Melt du Plooy Mon, 07 May 2007 11:05:12 +0000 http://www.chrisg.com/indirect-profits-business-and-corporate-blogs/#comment-3109 Hi Chris, great post. I am looking forward to your next post to learn how it's done :) Hi Chris, great post. I am looking forward to your next post to learn how it’s done :)

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